Re: FC5 doesn't start up right.

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On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 08:28 -0400, Poohba wrote:

> 3. I did an upgrade from FC3 to FC5.  FC3 was having problems (with
> yum/python)  There seems to be different versions of different parts
> of python on my system so it doesn't always work right and I thought
> that would be fixed by upgrading.  I upgraded and ran yum and then the
> problems started.  (Even after the upgrade I couldn't boot right into
> FC5, had network problems and all... wireless only)

Hi Poohba,

Hmm... I think you have only 2 choices: either continue troubleshooting
or backup your important data, note down your configurations (note: I
did not say backup your configuration files -- see below), then wipe
your disk clean and do a fresh install of FC5. The choice you make
should be determined by 2 things: how much time you have, and how much
hair you have left to pull out in frustration. My brutally honest (and
possibly mistaken) opinion is to do the wipe and clean install.

There are quite a few changes between FC3 and FC5, and depending on what
you are running, whether your system is functioning as a server or as a
desktop, it may not be worth the time and trouble to slog through what
could potentially be a minefield of duplicate packages, deprecated
configurations, etc. If, however, you wish to learn all you can about
the internals of your operating system and you have lots of time to
spare, then by all means continue troubleshooting.

If you have existing configurations that you wish to preserve, then the
picture gets complicated. Some people would argue that backing up the
configuration files, then after the re-install, restoring them and
overwriting the defaults is a good idea. I would caution that this
assumes that there have been no major changes in the packages that would
break your original configuration. If you're feeling lucky, then maybe
you could try this method. This is why I used to insist on detailed
documentation, not just a copy of the configuration files, whenever I
was in charge of a project. 

Right now, you have several problems: X cannot start because something,
possibly permissions, or your graphics card driver is not working
properly. Your default run-level has also been dropped to 3 (text mode),
which is sensible because you really need to fix your X problem first;
in a previous thread you have 2 versions of python installed. I'd say
that you have a seriously messed up system right there. If you are using
your computer as a desktop, you probably have several more packages that
may exhibit problems later, if they haven't already. 

This may sound like a typical Micro$oft thing to say but: I'd reformat
and re-install the system if I were you. 


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