Tim: >> I've only ever seen GRUB count hard drives, it skips other devices. So, >> if I had a system set up like with multiple devices, it'd be like this: >> >> Linux device Type of device GRUB device >> -------------+----------------+-------------- >> /dev/hda | hard drive | hd0 >> /dev/hdb | CD-ROM | (ignored) >> /dev/hdc | IDE LS-120 | fd0 >> /dev/hdd | hard drive | hd1 nigel henry: > Hi Tim. My confusion was in not realising that Grub counted the harddrives > sequentially, ignoring how they were identified in /dev. This wasn't helped > by the fact that /dev/hda, and /dev/hdb, the first 2 harddrives, were listed > by Grub as (hd0), and (hd1), which at the time seemed to confirm that Grub > followed the listings in /dev. Logically then /dev/hde is (hd4) right? No. > Very wrong, and resulted in the long running argument with Grub, with it > constantly saying "no such disc" when I tried install Grub in (hd4). Yes, it is irritating, though explained in the documentation. It's a right pain on systems with removable drives. You can't take a drive out and leave it out, unless all the GRUB configurations come before it. i.e. On a five drive system, you couldn't take out the second drive, and have the following three drives treated the same as before. You can only take out drives from the last drive, backwards. > btw. Did you see the post I sent back with regard to your question. "How do > you know which cards are capable of multiple audio streams before you buy > them?" The thread is "Audigy 2 has no playback sound" Yes, saw that, thanks. Just another thing on my lists to get around to, though. -- (Currently running FC4, occasionally trying FC5.) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.