and from my perspective.. you guys still miss the point i'm making.. linux is great for some apps, for some types of people. not disputing that... linux in my mind, as well as the market, is not ready for the desktop, and won't be ready for the "desktop" for a loonnngg time. that's not to say that some people don't handle it on the desktop with not problem.. but if you're honest, then you'll see that linux and the supporting apps aren't easy for the avg user. windows has spent a great deal of time/effort in making it (dumbing down) for the avg user. don't get me wrong.. the majority of my work is done on systems using linux. but i'm a former eng, with a great deal of past experience.. but i still get frustrated over the fact that i can plug in a wireless card in windows and it pretty much just works, whereas with linux, good luck!! with windows, i can pretty much download an app it works.. with linux. i have to find the rpms.. and then hope that it might work.. or i might get into dependency hell... as i've said.. for the right use/person, linux is great.. but just doin't try to say it's as easy to use, or in the same league as windows.. you also need to remember that linux wasn't created with a goal to replace windows on the desktop.. which is why it's damm good for the backroom types of things... (servers/webservers/phone systems/mobile apps/etc..) having said that.. if enough time/effort is put into the process by the various participants, then it might get there... the market will ultimately decide... peace... -----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jack Gates Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:23 AM To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Wireless PCMCIA On Thursday 13 July 2006 04:24, Anne Wilson wrote: > Sorry, Bruce, but you insult your mother. My husband is the complete > technophobe. Under windows all he could do was use Mozilla to browse the > web and to email, and play patience. He's been using linux for the past 2 > years, and he still browses, sends emails, though by kmail these days, and > plays patience. > > Novice users soon settle. It's windows power users that have problems > adjusting. They forget that they got that way over a long period of time, > and were just as helpless when they first started. > > Having said that, if I were giving it to your mother I'd want to have the > applications set up and configured to exactly what she'd want to do with > it, before handing it over. > > Anne Anne, You said it a whole lot better than I did. I am finished with my rant. Peace Bruce, no harm no fowl. -- Jack Gates http://www.jlgates.com/ http://www.myenergyproducts.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
