Re: Playing MP3s

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Patrick W. Barnes wrote:
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 13:32, Temlakos <temlakos@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The issue with MP3 files is not technical at all, but legal.

MP3 is a patented algorithm, and therefore, closed-source.

Fedora /will not/ distribute anything that plays closed-source stuff. In
some jurisdictions where Fedora is accessible, that would be illegal.

So what many of us end up doing is either (a) installing a third-party
module to enable XMMS to play MP3 files anyway, or (b) do what you did:
build XMMS yourself, with the MP3 capabilities preserved.

Now anyone else here will likely tell you to search the archives of the
Fedora Users' list for the full context of the discussion of MP3 files.
And I will say that perhaps the MP3 issue has been "talked to death."

But before I send you to the archives, I'd like to say a few words about
something that's simply missing from the MP3 debate, and that is: /where
do MP3 files come from/.

Some contributors to this list impress me as having the opinion that
most, if not all, MP3 content comes from individual users who convert,
or "rip," Audio CD content into this closed-source format, "just because
all the players out there play MP3." I wouldn't know about the reality
of that situation. I have never played /any/ music on any device other
than my computer or an Audio CD or DVD player. (Am I the last remaining
non-adopter of iPod or iTunes? Maybe. I don't really care.) My musical
tastes are somewhat more limited than those of most people here, so that
I am more likely to tune in a radio station that plays "my kind" of
music than to try to record single tracks from CD albums to another
medium. So this "format war" doesn't really affect me.

My advice to anyone who /does/ have Audio CD content that they would
like to play "on the road" is to /abandon/ MP3 as a format and instead
look for devices that use the /OGG Vorbis/ format. Now /that/ format is
another "lossy compression format," and a lot of software I have seen
that will read MP3 will also read OGG Vorbis. The difference is that OGG
Vorbis is open-source, while MP3 is closed. OGG Vorbis is just as good
as is MP3 for the purpose of copying Audio CD content to a more
"portable" format. So if /you/ have the original, uncompressed (or
compressed by lossless compression only) sound content and want to know
where to rip it to, rip to OGG Vorbis. You'll save yourself a lot of
headaches.

The problem is that a lot of /original multimedia content/ is in the MP3
format. Users who want access to /this/ kind of file have a problem:
they often can't access the content in any other format. MP3 is all they
have access to. And if they /could/ convert MP3 back to WAV (which is
the uncompressed format) and then to OGG Vorbis, they're going to lose
some parts of the file that they can't afford to lose--because MP3 and
OGG Vorbis differ /significantly/ in those parts of the original sound
that they discard. (I'll give you an example: some years ago I acquired
an excellent recording of the Red Army Chorus singing the State Hymn to
the USSR. That's an MP3 file. Now if I choose not to get an MP3-friendly
routine for my copy of XMMS, then what do I do with that file? Play it
only on a Windows box? Somehow I don't think that's exactly in the
spirit of Linux.)

That problem isn't going away any time soon. The resolution, if it
happens at all, will come /only/ when open-source devotees become a big
enough "market share" that multimedia Webmasters will at least make
their content available in open-source formats--say, "Click here for the
MP3 and there for the OGG Vorbis file." And of course it illustrates one
of the last hurdles that the open-source movement now faces: the
overwhelming prevalence of closed-source multimedia formats on the
Internet today.



This is among the best answers I've seen to the MP3 question.  :-)

For more on Fedora's stance, there are some new pages up on the wiki:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Multimedia



Thanks for the link. I used it, and followed the link to xiph.org.

They do a good job describing third-party /software/.

But Audie Audiophile needs a directory of third-party /hardware/ that will play open-source files. And anyone who makes such hardware would be well-advised to get a listing on such a directory--or if no such directory exists, to create one.

While I'm on the subject: where are the tools for creating your own (perhaps non-encrypted) DVD from video content that you have created yourself or acquired elsewhere--including the Web? Why should Windows users have all the tools, and open-source devotees have none?

Temlakos


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