Since we're being picky.... In your arguments you keep ignoring the fact that a luser w/o privs can't normally ifdown ppp0 And in any case, any admin who is setting up a multi-user system such as you describe, and doesn't nitpick the configuration, versus accepting whatever defaults the distro has, is being extremely foolish, or if inexperienced, extremely ignorant. And again, we're being picky. Sounds like we agree on the important stuff (since you like compromise). === Al --- jdow <jdow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: "Al Sparks" <data345@xxxxxxxxx> > Joanne gets picky again: On a single user machine, I agree this level > of precaution is bloody annoying. But 'ix has traditionally been > multiple simultaneous users of varying levels of proficiency. In that > environment these precautions are necessary to maintain uptime and > system integrity. If a luser could "ifdown ppp0" on a remote system > that was normally remotely administered imagine the annoyance that > would generate. "Fail safe" is a really good two word motto and system > configuration option. Methinks it's being done the right way. In your arguments you keep ignoring the fact that a luser w/o privs can't normally ifdown ppp0 And in any case, any admin who is setting up a multi-user system such as you describe, and doesn't nitpick the configuration, versus accepting whatever defaults the distro has, is being extremely foolish, or if inexperienced, extremely ignorent.
