On Mon, 2006-07-03 at 16:49 +0700, PHD wrote: > I dont have Flash 8 players ... I can use it as an argument again > using non open plugin on a website... but they just don't want to hear > that ;-) Hmm, I don't see a great deal of difference between things like: - Look at this website. - I can't, my browser doesn't support it. - Did you see that website? - No, I don't have the internet at home. - Can you help me get a new door from the store? - No, I don't have a trailer for my car. i.e. *Everyone* has to get used to the idea that all computers are not the same, they can't all do the same tricks, and not everyone can do what they can. The converse is also true, you can probably do lots that their computer can't do. Starting with, keeping running for days without crashing... ;-) *My* computer is not a toy. -- (Currently running FC4, in case that's important to the thread) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.