Michael Nelson wrote: > Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > >> Take a look at /etc/security/console.perms.d/50-default.perms > > Wow, I'd have *never* found that! I thought I was doing pretty well > bungling around in udev. > > Thanks! > Your welcome. Console Perms actually predates udev. and its settings for the devices it controls override the udev settings. But it only makes changes when you log in/out locally. If a device that is listed is added after the user logs in, or if you change it yourself, they are not changed until the "console owner" logs out. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!