Okay, so I have an older Cisco 350 wireless PCMCIA card that used to work fine under FC4. I upgraded to FC5 and of course it broke. The driver still seems to be there and partially functional, but it doesn't want to associate with an access point. I can run iwconfig and see the interface there as both eth0 with a wifi0 alias. The ESSID is correct and the encryption key is correct (can't see that under iwconfig, but it's set correctly in network config applet and I have forced it again and again using iwconfig). The strange thing is that iwconfig reports "Access Point: Invalid". Mode is "Managed". Interesting stats are: Rx invalid nwid is > 0 Invalid misc > 0 I can scan for APs using "iwlist eth0 scan" and it finds my access point. >From this, I can only surmise: 1. The driver is loading and it's finding the card OK. 2. The utils are talking to the card OK and it's xmit/rcv OK. 3. Something is wrong with AP association. I have tried forcing association with "iwconfig eth0 ap any" and even the MAC address of the AP reported with "iwlist eth0 scan". Nothing seems to work. Doing an /sbin/ifup hangs when DHCP goes looking for an address. Using iwevent, I can see the wireless driver setting the mode to managed, the encryption key, the correct ESSID, and then dropping broadcast TX packets, presumably the DHCP requests. Help... -- Dave Roberts <ldave@xxxxxxxxxxxx>