During the past weekend, when the problem with evolution-data-server and gnome-panel existed, I could not get the gnome clock-applet to run. I use WindowMaker as a window manager and there is an RPM in Extras for a WindowMaker clock wmCalClock. That's pretty nice, not so beautiful as the old old afterstep clock that made me fall in love with WindowMaker in 1998, but it does use anti-aliased fonts. For fun & comparison, I compiled the newest version of wmclock that I could find (from 2001, I think). Now the gnome clock is back, and just for fun I compared the cost of the clocks. If I'm reading this ps output correctly, the gnome clock-applet uses almost 1% of 1gig system memory and it uses 9x as much as the wmCalClock or wmclock. Am I reading this right? USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND pauljohn 2521 0.0 0.1 3124 1296 ? Ss 08:44 0:00 wmCalClock pauljohn 2528 0.0 0.9 25684 9624 ? S 08:44 0:00 /usr/libexec/clock-applet --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=39 pauljohn 3026 0.0 0.1 2888 1160 pts/1 S 08:56 0:00 wmclock The cost of running the gnome clock-applet is probably higher than this, howerver, because it is eating resources out of the CORBA server, right? In case you wondered why your linux system is using 500meg of RAM while while doing "nothing", this is part of the answer. Your clock is using 10 meg of RAM. -- Paul E. Johnson Professor, Political Science 1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504 University of Kansas