Harry Mangalam <harry.mangalam@xxxxxxx> writes: > Organization: NACS > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Disposition: inline > Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Hi All, > > I previously posted my experiences with Breezy, mostly to the positive. I > recently upgraded 2 systems to Dapper and with one glaring exception, the old > Thinkpad a22p works well with it. I upgraded my A31p to Dapper recently and I was quite impressed at first. Eventually though I switched back to FC5. I don't have any comments on APM vs ACPI since I use my box more as a desktop system than a laptop but in both Dapper and FC5 I found that dual head was severely broken. I now understand this is an xorg issue with two fixes (googling "dual head radeon xorg" should get you the relevant bugzilla numbers). > final IMHO: Ubuntu (and all debian-based systems) continue to demonstrate the > superiority of apt over rpm/yum-based systems. In comparison, administering > FC4 and FC5-based systems makes my teeth hurt. apt- isn't perfect, but it's > by far the best installation/maint tool I've ever used. Fascinating. It was system management on Xubuntu that drove me back to FC5. I hated synaptic (the GUI tool) and far prefer yum. In all fairness, I "grew up" with rpm/yum so they are second nature to me. Also, I went to build Emacs from CVS on Xubuntu and it was like pulling teeth. I never did get the X headers installed. Even worse was getting sshd working. And while I got sshd running, I never did figure out how to configure it so that I could log into the box with local and remote forwarding configured. I finally decided that, as much as I love the XFCE4.4 desktop, I did not have the energy to become an apt/debian/ubuntu sysadmin. Better to work with Rawhide development and make sure XFCE4.4. is tested well and works on my A31p when FC6 comes out. FWIW, I had a similar experience with Suse 10.1 about a month ago, when it first came out. These experiences with Suse and Ubuntu have given me a new respect for Fedora ... but I'll still rant anyway. :-) -pmr