Hi, I wonder if it can be expected that hal will upgraded during the lifetime of fc5 (other than security fixes)? A quick compare between the cvs version at freedesktop and the one provided by fc5 shows that several common usb-music-players have been added (I didn't check the other). Why does this make a difference? Because it would enable apps like rhythmbox to know that it is a music player that has been plugged in, and take the appropriate action (sync, add stuff to playlist etc). -- Trond Danielsen