Here's what I did to insert a rule (using a minimal install of FC4 to set up a subversion server):- To open port 10000 for WebMin without nice graphical tools the following worked for me:- Add accept port 10000 rule to firewall:- Get a list of the current rules iptables -t filter -L --line-numbers Insert the rule before the last rule iptables -I RH-Firewall-1-INPUT 10 -j ACCEPT -p tcp -m state --state NEW --dport 10000 there were 10 rules already in use in this case Configure iptables to save rule set upon restart vim /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config replace "no" with "yes" in line IPTABLES_SAVE_ON_RESTART="no" do service iptables restart put IPTABLES_SAVE_ON_RESTART="no" back to "yes" shutdown -r now and iptables -t filter -L --line-numbers to make sure it worked. Any help to you? Dave Fletcher -- Registered Linux user number 393408 I use and recommend the email service at 1 & 1 For domain registration, email and web hosting please visit: http://oneandone.co.uk/xml/init?k_id=6389763