On 05/18/2006 04:52:14 AM, Stanley A. Klein wrote: > Nvidia makes display cards that manufacturers put into machines. There > is an x.org driver for Nvidia, but it rarely works right. To make an > Nvidia display work properly, you have to go to their site, download > their driver installer, go root, and run the installer (which will > possibly compile and install the kernel module that runs their display). > This is best done from run level 3. If you do a general yum update and > yum installs a new kernel, you have to either rerun the driver installer > for the new kernel or edit /boot/grub/grub.conf to make the old kernel > the default. I don't know what happens when the screen driver crashes > during a graphical (run level 5) boot, but I'd rather not experience > it. > I used to do this too, and in fact booted in run level 3 up recently. I have nVidia cards on all my machines. However, with FC5 and FC4 I haven't needed run level 5. The xorg driver for nVidia is good enough, and then I just use yum to install the kmod-nvidia or kernel-module (for FC4). No need to dl drivers from nVidia and do all that stuff, anymore. If you are booting into run level 5 and the graphics driver crashes, just switch to another console (ctrl-alt-f2 for example) and kill X, then go about downloading the proper drivers and so on, or specifying run level 3 in the proper places. However, I got tired of doing this with earlier versions of Fedora and Redhat and so I did boot in runlevel 3 for many years, and started X by xstart. As to your original question, I never found out that answer. It always annoyed me too, that they turned off the shutdown selection in gnome in run level 3. I made myself a launcher and used that. I suppose I could have messed with the menus, but didn't feel like it at the time. Cheers, Rikke