On Tue May 9 2006 8:05 am, Aaron Konstam wrote: > If it requires discussion, you > might post to fedora-devel list That's an interesting discovery given all that's been tossed in the "everything" discussion. In that debate, I did post a few times in the development list, but got the "file a bugzilla" rejoinder. Under another cap, I'm in politics. There's a rule of thumb there, if you're going to survive as an office holder: for every letter you get, that represents the sentiments of a hundred others (put your own number there - it's always large, though). Those who say the issue is not significant because only a few have bothered to bugzilla it have a little problem of 'noblesse oblige' - the 'let them eat cake' crowd may find the ultimate historical fate of their posturing as metaphorically 'interesting' as that of Marie Antoinette's... Now, anyone want to start a debate about configurability of Fedora for 'regular users'? Compare the Mandrake/PCLOS Control Center to Fedora's System-Config-Control to see what I mean... (I suggest anyone suffering through issues with NDISwrapper and Broadcom in Fedora to take a look at that implementation) I don't personally believe that the issues that have been raised here haven't got back to the team that steers the development of Fedora, however. They are a derivative of a successful corporation that has built a successful alternative to Redmond, and they haven't done that by ignoring their user-base. I'm not going to make threats about switching distros. I run at least five different distros currently, and Fedora is still the best for multiple reasons. I am participating in various discussions with developers/users of some of the Fedora derivatives, though - there are active efforts to make Fedora better out there, and I'm convinced that such efforts can only rebound to the benefit/improvement of Fedora. Sometimes, you have to use a tug-boat to steer a ship... '-) -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA