On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 07:09 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote: > On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 09:54:07PM -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote: > > > Sorry - but "installing everything" is just plain silly in most cases. > > I don't know which packages and libraries I'm going to need tomorrow. You never need to explicitly ask for libraries unless you are a developer. yum will find them. As far as what you will need tomorrow - when you need it, it is just a yum away. > I don't have time to work for my computer. My computer should work for me. It is far more likely _not_ to work for you if you install everything under the sun. Particularly when update time comes. > > > Even with gobs of hard drive space and gigabit straight from a backbone > > to your home. > > I manage with 0.5/6 MBit ADSL, but FC does have an unstable > feel around it. FC is close to bleeding edge. If you want stable - try RHEL (or one of the free clones, like Cent OS - just the other day, I saw a Linux magazine at the grocery store that came with Cent OS - so you may not even need to DL it) > > > menus become cluttered, for one thing. > > Then the menus are designed wrong. I don't expect most packages > to show up in the menus. Most do not - but if you install everything, you get all the apps that _do_ show up in the menus. > > Bzzt. I have no idea what I'm going to use next. Some documents > can be only read in AbiWord, and some in OO. You don't know which > is going to cut the mustard. OK - confession here. I purchased CrossOver Office. If AbiWord doesn't handle it, I use Word Document Viewer from within wine, installed in CrossOver Office (I also have the powerpoint and excel viewers, though with gnumeric - I've never needed the excel viewer. I also have Google Picasa, which works exceptionally well in CXO. > > > Why have kmail and balsa and sylpheed cluttering up your menus when you > > are going to use evolution? > > I'm using mutt, and it doesn't show up in the menus. I use locate > instead of menus most of the time. But if you install everything, you will have all those things in the menus. If you don't mind that - whatever, but it is counter to usability to have menus stuffed with everything. > > > It also is a lot more likely that you will run into problems when > > upgrading if you have everything under the sun installed. > > Upgrades Just Don't Work in FC. Tried it, always wind up with > reinstalling. If you want smooth upgrades, try Debian. Maybe because you tried it after an everything install ? ;) I usually do a clean install as well, but I also have yum updated several systems - and yes, I have to do a little cleanup and work through some issues - but it does work. If I had everything installed, it would be a LOT more difficult. -=- The only time I ever have done an "install everything" was when I worked for a software company and we packaged our product in RPM (and slack packages ...) We did a few everything install in QA to see what broke. Other than that - it is pretty pointless IMHO. A bigger thing to gripe about IMHO is the removal (not separate packaging, complete removal) of static libraries from packages ... :p
