> But then I have two D-Links, and I'm very happy with both. Folks advocating those consumer firewall / NAT boxes might be interested to read this. http://people.freebsd.org/~phk/dlink/ I've seen the same thing done by Linksys and Netgear routers. It sounds to me like the code running on those boxes is not very highly audited for correctness, and is hardly ever updated by users even when bugs are found and the manufacturer issues new code. While these firewalls usually do run linux they don't have anything like yum to keep them up-to-date. OB linux: folks wanting to tinker and run linux on an embeded system can't go too wrong by buying one of these routers and running openwrt (www.openwrt.org) on them. You get real linux including ssh with authorized keys support, ipv6, ntp, syslog. The admin commands on the box such as ifconfig, ps, etc. will seem very familiar to linux users. Note, I can't see the value of running one of those under-powered boxes as a firewall. Why? It uses the same software firewall that fedora does. Why not run the firewall on a more powerful box like your main computer? -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/ Direct SIP URL Dialing: http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/phonedirectory.html