FC5 installed very smoothly on this laptop. No real issues at this point save the Atheros Wireless NIC. 04:02.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01) I installed the livna RPM's: madwifi-0.0.0.20060317-4.lvn5 kmod-madwifi-0.0.0.20060317-3.2.6.16_1.2080_FC5 I have been trying to use NetworkManger (version NetworkManager-0.6.2-1.fc5 from updates testing) to get the connected to my wireless network in any mode(en-encrypted, WEP or WAP). I haven't been having much success at this point. NetworkManager shows several wireless networks available, some locked(shown with a padlock icon) and others unlocked. Anyone got a madwifi HOWTO to point me at for FC5 or a piece of information that I am missing to get me going? Sean Bruno