Good Morning Fedora Gurus, I have just upgraded my FC4 system with a fresh install of FC5 and all is good except that I receive a strange message about my sound card, Sound Blaster 16. The card is detected but the error says that I am missing some "streams" files that are needed to play sounds. Has anyone else see this behavior? Are these codec's or what? Best Wishes Stan Skidmore -----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 3:48 AM To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: fedora-list Digest, Vol 26, Issue 34 Send fedora-list mailing list submissions to fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx You can reach the person managing the list at fedora-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxx When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of fedora-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. help in USB ports numbering/identification (Michal Szymanski) 2. Re: Installing FC5 on pre-partitioned /dev/hdb (Gene Heskett) 3. Re: SElinux (Craig White) 4. Re: FC5 ISA Soundcard not working any more (antonio montagnani) 5. Re: FC5 ISA Soundcard not working any more (antonio montagnani) 6. Re: Message clarification? (Erik P. Olsen) 7. Re: Hotmail and sendmail server (Amrit Angsusingh) 8. Re: Installing FC5 on pre-partitioned /dev/hdb (Gene Heskett) 9. Re: Message clarification? (Ed Greshko) 10. Re: Message clarification? (Anne Wilson) 11. start_udev crashes diskless boot in FC5 ( Saurabh Jain (???? ???) ) 12. Re: Message clarification? (Erik P. Olsen) 13. Jumbled Desktop Icons (Jeffrey D. Yuille) 14. Re: Jumbled Desktop Icons (Leon) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 11:16:26 +0200 From: Michal Szymanski <msz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: help in USB ports numbering/identification To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20060403091626.GA15530@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I am having hard time trying to connect a device designed as save-disk for digital cameras to a FC3/FC4 machines. The device is marked USB 2.0 High Speed and carries also memory card reader (3 slots). When I connect it to the PC, I get: usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 8 usb 3-2: not running at top speed; connect to a high speed hub scsi10 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices usb-storage: device found at 8 usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning Vendor: DCB Model: HS-HD Rev: 2.23 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 SCSI device sdc: 156301488 512-byte hdwr sectors (80026 MB) sdc: assuming drive cache: write through SCSI device sdc: 156301488 512-byte hdwr sectors (80026 MB) sdc: assuming drive cache: write through sdc: sdc1 Attached scsi disk sdc at scsi10, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Vendor: DCB Model: HS-CF Rev: 2.23 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 Attached scsi removable disk sdd at scsi10, channel 0, id 0, lun 1 ... (similar for other memory card slots, just different lun numbers) So, it works as "full speed" only, with a rate of 1MB/s which is not acceptable for 80GB disk. At first I though the first two lines mean that the USB port used is not capable of High Speed. But then I connected to the VERY SAME port another device - memory card reader (no disk) and got: usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12 scsi9 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices usb-storage: device found at 12 usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning Vendor: SMSC Model: USB 2 HS-CF Rev: 2.16 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 SCSI device sdc: 4001760 512-byte hdwr sectors (2049 MB) ... (other slots) ... So there are two problems: 1. Why does the device not work at 480 Mbps, 2. What do all these USB numbers mean: 1-4, 3-2? I guessed one of those should should somehow point to the USB port used but it seems it does not. No single number repeats although the cable was plugged into the same port. any ideas, explanations? regards, Michal. -- Michal Szymanski (msz at astrouw dot edu dot pl) Warsaw University Observatory, Warszawa, POLAND ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 05:22:04 -0400 From: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Installing FC5 on pre-partitioned /dev/hdb To: Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <200604030522.04550.gene.heskett@xxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sunday 02 April 2006 20:52, Les Mikesell wrote: [...] > >> So how can I bypass this "thing from hell" and get to actually doing >> the install, and do it where I want it? > >I'd stay away from text mode. Do the reverse-vnc connection if >you have to to get a graphic screen for the setup. I tried the gui, and that did work as I wanted it, so the install is done, and nearly everything is installed. SElinux is turned off, as was iptables after I'd fixed all the other stuff re the labels by taking them back out of the copy of fstab on hdb. So labels are no longer a concern since theres none in the hda copy of fstab either. I am already behind a more than adequate firewall. 3 immediate problems: 1) networking is so slow it took it about 6 hours to do the yum update once I'd gotten it booted. Those 69 packages shouldn't have taken more than 10 minutes or so on a 256/1.5 dsl connection. Is there a fix for that other than reverting to my homemade 2.6.16.1? None of my homemade kernels has ever exhibited network performance like that. Maybe it didn't have the forcedeth driver available? 2) evolution, although it has all the data filled in properly, cannot login and get my email from incoming.verizon.net. fetchmail had no problems once I'd rebooted to FC2. I got the feeling it wasn't using the pop3 protocol correctly, but then neither does verizon as the login and password are exchanged in the clear. 3) where do I edit, and what, to make it use kde instead of gnome? The older switchdesk utility wasn't fully installed for some reason, and doesn't seem to be available via yum. -- Cheers, Gene People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word 'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which bypasses vz's stupid bounce rules. I do use spamassassin too. :-) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 01:46:02 -0700 From: Craig White <craigwhite@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: SElinux To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1144053963.19913.34.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 10:25 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote: > On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 12:34:07AM -0700, Craig White wrote: > > > if Windows exploits are any indication, it is primarily desktop systems > > which are the target for malware that infects the system for nefarious > > No disagreement. > > > purposes. Why? Because the users are often not knowledgeable, run with > > elevated privileges, travel to web sites that attempt every conceivable > > exploit in a plethora of scripting languages, etc. > > Yes. But more packages -- more opportunities for SELinux/RSBAC/grsecurity > to break your system. If a user has to choose between a secure or a functional > system, he will choose the one that works. > > > The policy updates from Fedora have been frequent and are automatically > > installed/applied > > Empirically, I had SELinux breaking services on my desktop. It is > hard enough to keep the system running in Fedora Core land as it is. > No need to extra handicap. > > It is reasonable for a sysadmin to craft and review security policy > on a stable (=static) server with few packages installed and few > services offered. Especially, if you're paid to do it. > > Trying to do this on a rapidly evolving desktop with a rich set > of packages, most of them pulled in from a dozen of depositories > run by people with not very high stability standards (FC is bleeding > edge, after all) is a) not something most people enjoy b) takes > more time that most people have, especially if it's a hobby. ---- I guess it's a throw out the baby with the bathwater thing. What you call 'break your system' really is nothing more than SELinux blocking attempts by programs to accomplish tasks which they would have no problem doing if SELinux were set to 'off' or at least 'permissive' mode. That seems to be an over reaction. Yes, it does require some effort on the user part to remove the SELinux 'block' Yes, life is simpler for a user to simply set SELinux to 'off' or 'permissive' I would submit that Microsoft Windows offers a simpler environment for the user where security is less. If by extension, the goal is to provide an easier Linux system for the user to use, why wouldn't he just log in as root? It sure would make things easier for udev if users logged in as root. Why quit there? Why not simply do '/sbin/service iptables stop' ? The real problem that I see with SELinux is the use of language tokens which aren't natural language which on the surface makes it appear overly complex. Craig ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 11:27:00 +0200 From: "antonio montagnani" <antonio.montagnani@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: FC5 ISA Soundcard not working any more To: "For users of Fedora Core releases" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <4c37b6af0604030227y422845a1v62344fc274b74263@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2006/4/3, Rickey Moore <wayward4now@xxxxxxxxx>: > > > Jim Cornette <fc-cornette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > debug it... huh, dmesg finally shows that isapnp is now working... so > > that's news. I haven't a clue what did that. I'll get back to you > > > and relate what I'm finding. Ric > > > I'm getting the kernel and Kudzu using locate. /sound/isa modules show > up in a lot of kernel items. I would not think that the feature to > recognize pnp isa cards would be removed from kudzu. The feature could > have been removed though. Is it possible to use an older version of > kudzu to see if it was gutted? My guess deps would be heavy. > Probably putting a bug report against kudzu would be wise since ISA and > PNP are still needed. > I still haven't a clue as to what happened to fire isapnp back up, but I'm > loath to file a bug report as I did a yum-upgrade path which hosed ALOT of > the system when yum segfaulted on me during the upgrade. That hurt! So, I > can't really bitch about anything, I'm no victim, I volunteered. > > udev is still hosed, at least on bootup. Once I get past that one, I'll be > pretty close to being operational. thanx, Ric > > > > > ================================================ > My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: > "There are two Great Sins in the world... > ...the Sin of Ignorance, and > ...the Sin of Stupidity. > Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. > > Linux user# 44256 > Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ > ================================================ > > > ________________________________ > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > > This is my updated modprobe.conf. I still do not understand why the sound card doesn't work at boot-time, but if I issue modprobe snd-sbawe it works immediately. Shall I had this line to some rc file?? # Note: for use under 2.4, changes must also be made to modules.conf! alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc alias usb-controller uhci-hcd options snd-sbawe isapnp=1 install snd-sbawe /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-sbawe && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : remove snd-sbawe { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-sbawe #Turn off IPv6 #alias net-pf-10 off #alias net-pf-10 on #alias ipv6 off alias eth1 ne2k-pci alias eth0 8139too Tnx for help -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : antoniomontag ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 11:33:26 +0200 From: "antonio montagnani" <antonio.montagnani@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: FC5 ISA Soundcard not working any more To: "For users of Fedora Core releases" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <4c37b6af0604030233o897aab7y335577ba7d37064b@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2006/4/3, antonio montagnani <antonio.montagnani@xxxxxxxxx>: > 2006/4/3, Rickey Moore <wayward4now@xxxxxxxxx>: > > > > > > Jim Cornette <fc-cornette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > debug it... huh, dmesg finally shows that isapnp is now working... so > > > that's news. I haven't a clue what did that. I'll get back to you > > > > > and relate what I'm finding. Ric > > > > > > I'm getting the kernel and Kudzu using locate. /sound/isa modules show > > up in a lot of kernel items. I would not think that the feature to > > recognize pnp isa cards would be removed from kudzu. The feature could > > have been removed though. Is it possible to use an older version of > > kudzu to see if it was gutted? My guess deps would be heavy. > > Probably putting a bug report against kudzu would be wise since ISA and > > PNP are still needed. > > I still haven't a clue as to what happened to fire isapnp back up, but I'm > > loath to file a bug report as I did a yum-upgrade path which hosed ALOT of > > the system when yum segfaulted on me during the upgrade. That hurt! So, I > > can't really bitch about anything, I'm no victim, I volunteered. > > > > udev is still hosed, at least on bootup. Once I get past that one, I'll be > > pretty close to being operational. thanx, Ric > > > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: > > "There are two Great Sins in the world... > > ...the Sin of Ignorance, and > > ...the Sin of Stupidity. > > Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. > > > > Linux user# 44256 > > Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ > > ================================================ > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. > > > > > > -- > > fedora-list mailing list > > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe: > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > > > > > > This is my updated modprobe.conf. > I still do not understand why the sound card doesn't work at > boot-time, but if I issue modprobe snd-sbawe it works immediately. > Shall I had this line to some rc file?? > > > # Note: for use under 2.4, changes must also be made to modules.conf! > alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc > alias usb-controller uhci-hcd > options snd-sbawe isapnp=1 > install snd-sbawe /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-sbawe && > /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > remove snd-sbawe { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; > /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-sbawe > #Turn off IPv6 > #alias net-pf-10 off > #alias net-pf-10 on > #alias ipv6 off > alias eth1 ne2k-pci > alias eth0 8139too > > > Tnx for help > -- > Antonio Montagnani > Skype : antoniomontag > and this is the output of kernel log at boot-time. Why doesn't the card work?? isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... pnp: SB audio device quirk - increasing port range pnp: AWE32 quirk - adding two ports isapnp: Card 'Creative SB32 PnP' isapnp: 1 Plug & Play card detected total -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : antoniomontag ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 11:49:08 +0200 From: "Erik P. Olsen" <erik@xxxxxx> Subject: Re: Message clarification? To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <4430EF94.6020808@xxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Craig White wrote: > On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 10:23 +0200, Erik P. Olsen wrote: >> Logwatch sends me this message: >> >> pam_timestamp_check: PAM `/var/' permissions are lax >> >> What can it be and where can I read about such messages? > ---- > # ls -ld /var > drwxr-xr-x 28 root root 4096 Mar 25 13:49 /var > > it would appear that you changed the perms on this directory - probably > not a very good idea changing the perms of the root level folders such > as /, /tmp, /usr, /var, /home > > chmod 755 /var > > should be all you need do unless the owner isn't root:root Thanks, I've chmod'ed it now. But - forgive my lack of knowledge - what does "lax" mean? -- Regards, Erik P. Olsen ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 21:48:51 -1200 From: "Amrit Angsusingh" <amritangs@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Hotmail and sendmail server To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <8d54083b0604030248w28fd8481u@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My users and me could get mail from hotmail if there was only text not with the attachment. Could you sugggest me what's going wrong? Amrit 2006/4/2, Amrit Angsusingh <amritangs@xxxxxxxxx>: > > I use FC 3 with sendmail and squarail webmail as my mail server for my > company for a couple of years without any problem but since two months ago , > my mail users included me could not receive the email from hotmail if they > have some attachments. We can receive all mail from gmail , yahoo ...etc > with attachments but not from hotmail. We can deliver and get to text mail > from hotmail too . When I asked hotmail support ,they suggested me to look > at the server whether any filtration or not. but I have no idea what happen > to my server and where should I look for. > As I know nothing is set just on squarail webmail I set the spamcop via > them menu of my squarail mail but I disable it already. Anybody know what's > wrong with my server? Thanks. > > --------------------- here is the answer from hotmail support > ------------- > > > Dear Amrit, > > > Thank you for writing back to MSN Hotmail Technical Support. > > I apologize for the delayed response. Recently, we received an extremely > high volume of e-mail messages and are working diligently to catch up. > > My name is Val and I understand that you are having an issue receiving > messages from MSN Hotmail accounts using your company's e-mail address. > > Amrit, I know how important it is for you to have this issue resolved. > Please accept our deepest apology for the inconvenience this has caused > you. > > I have checked the bounce message that you have provided and based on the > code that was included in the message, the messages were successfully sent > from the MSN Hotmail server. It seems that your company's Web server is > having issues receiving messages from MSN Hotmail. > > In this regard, please contact your e-mail administrator regarding this > issue. They might be having issues or implementing restrictions in > receiving messages from Web-based e-mail services such as MSN Hotmail. > > You are a valuable customer to MSN and we are glad to give you consistent > and effective service. > > Thank you for using MSN Hotmail. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------- > Amrit Angsusingh > Thailand > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20060402/f719687 c/attachment.html ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 05:50:34 -0400 From: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Installing FC5 on pre-partitioned /dev/hdb To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <200604030550.35293.gene.heskett@xxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Monday 03 April 2006 05:22, Gene Heskett wrote: >On Sunday 02 April 2006 20:52, Les Mikesell wrote: >[...] > >>> So how can I bypass this "thing from hell" and get to actually >>> doing the install, and do it where I want it? >> >>I'd stay away from text mode. Do the reverse-vnc connection if >>you have to to get a graphic screen for the setup. > >I tried the gui, and that did work as I wanted it, so the install is >done, and nearly everything is installed. SElinux is turned off, as >was iptables after I'd fixed all the other stuff re the labels by >taking them back out of the copy of fstab on hdb. So labels are no >longer a concern since theres none in the hda copy of fstab either. >I am already behind a more than adequate firewall. > >3 immediate problems: > >1) networking is so slow it took it about 6 hours to do the yum update >once I'd gotten it booted. Those 69 packages shouldn't have taken > more than 10 minutes or so on a 256/1.5 dsl connection. Is there a > fix for that other than reverting to my homemade 2.6.16.1? None of > my homemade kernels has ever exhibited network performance like that. > Maybe it didn't have the forcedeth driver available? > >2) evolution, although it has all the data filled in properly, cannot >login and get my email from incoming.verizon.net. fetchmail had no >problems once I'd rebooted to FC2. I got the feeling it wasn't using >the pop3 protocol correctly, but then neither does verizon as the > login and password are exchanged in the clear. > >3) where do I edit, and what, to make it use kde instead of gnome? > >The older switchdesk utility wasn't fully installed for some reason, > and doesn't seem to be available via yum. And add one more. 4) Since when is it illegal to have a seperate root partition? DD forced me to make root a directory on /, and I've never run that way in 8 years. I'll bruteforce it because the partition is there, without a label since DD wouldn't let me use it, IF there is no good reason for changing to a dir on / in the first place. >-- >Cheers, Gene >People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word >'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which bypasses vz's >stupid bounce rules. I do use spamassassin too. :-) >Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above >message by Gene Heskett are: >Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. -- Cheers, Gene People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word 'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which bypasses vz's stupid bounce rules. I do use spamassassin too. :-) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 17:52:05 +0800 From: Ed Greshko <Ed.Greshko@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Message clarification? To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <4430F045.1090902@xxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Erik P. Olsen wrote: > Craig White wrote: >> On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 10:23 +0200, Erik P. Olsen wrote: >>> Logwatch sends me this message: >>> >>> pam_timestamp_check: PAM `/var/' permissions are lax >>> >>> What can it be and where can I read about such messages? >> ---- >> # ls -ld /var >> drwxr-xr-x 28 root root 4096 Mar 25 13:49 /var >> >> it would appear that you changed the perms on this directory - probably >> not a very good idea changing the perms of the root level folders such >> as /, /tmp, /usr, /var, /home >> >> chmod 755 /var >> >> should be all you need do unless the owner isn't root:root > > Thanks, I've chmod'ed it now. But - forgive my lack of knowledge - what > does "lax" mean? > 1. Not tense, firm, or rigid; loose; slack; as, a lax bandage; lax fiber. [1913 Webster] The flesh of that sort of fish being lax and spongy. --Ray. [1913 Webster] 2. Not strict or stringent; not exact; loose; weak; vague; equivocal. [1913 Webster] -- The meek will inherit the earth -- if that's OK with you. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 10:57:44 +0100 From: Anne Wilson <cannewilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Message clarification? To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <200604031057.44670.cannewilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Monday 03 April 2006 10:52, Ed Greshko wrote: > 2. Not strict or stringent; not exact; loose; weak; vague; > equivocal. > [1913 Webster] > IOW, you probably had permissions set that would allow writing by users that should not write to that directory. Anne -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks Saurabh saurabh.org.in ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 12:05:56 +0200 From: "Erik P. Olsen" <erik@xxxxxx> Subject: Re: Message clarification? To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <4430F384.40009@xxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Anne Wilson wrote: > On Monday 03 April 2006 10:52, Ed Greshko wrote: >> 2. Not strict or stringent; not exact; loose; weak; vague; >> equivocal. >> [1913 Webster] >> > IOW, you probably had permissions set that would allow writing by users that > should not write to that directory. OK, I thought it was purely a technical term. -- Thanks, Erik P. Olsen ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 06:34:45 -0400 From: "Jeffrey D. Yuille" <jeffy5@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Jumbled Desktop Icons To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1144060485.3021.2.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello, I know that there is a bug report on jumbled desktop icons upon rebooting (especially with the home folder). Has this problem been fixed yet? Has anyone else been affected by this problem? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20060403/162eb15 f/attachment.html ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 11:48:49 +0100 From: Leon <sdl.web@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Jumbled Desktop Icons To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <m2odzj6ijy.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii "Jeffrey D. Yuille" <jeffy5@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > Hello, > > I know that there is a bug report on jumbled desktop icons upon rebooting (especially with the home folder). Has this problem been fixed > yet? Has anyone else been affected by this problem? Hi Jeffrey, Same here. It has not been fixed yet. I'm not sure if they are waiting for upstream to fix it or the fix is too difficult. -- Leon ------------------------------ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list End of fedora-list Digest, Vol 26, Issue 34 *******************************************
