On Tuesday 14 March 2006 19:56, Steffen Kluge wrote: >On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 13:20 -0700, Craig White wrote: >> this happens to be just one of the very many lists on redhat.com and >> I don't see the list admins asking for suggestions on how to handle >> this. > >Neither do I, but there has been the contention that nothing could be >done. David and I beg to differ. We think putting posters' email >addresses into post headers is a mis-feature that turns out to be a >weakness. > >> So without offering to write the program necessary for redhat as a >> supplement to their list management software, making suggestions >> about what 'they' should do is strictly engaging in a >> self-indulgent activity. > >Sticking ones head in the sand is a kind of self-indulgence, too. > >What we are proposing is avoiding to put list members' real email >addresses into the "From:" headers of list email. Obviously those real >addresses are essential for submitting and receiving posts, hence >submitting or subscribing under a fake address isn't an option. > >As for "a program" to do this: seeing that list email is sent by an >outbound MTA running postfix, how about this in > sender_canonical.regexp: > > # Don't munge the list address: > /^(.*)@(redhat\.com)/ ${1}@${2} > # Munge everything else: > /^(.*)@(.*)/ ${1}@${2}.invalid > >Season to taste. > >The first line doesn't take into account that RH staff can be list >subscribers as well, they would just miss out on that feature. This >assumes that the outbound MTA is used for list email as well as > non-list email. If it's only used for list email the problem doesn't > exist. > >The kind of munging proposed above would also cater for private > replies with very little additional effort for those who insist on > it. > >> Unless of course, you create a bugzilla entry in the mailman package >> as an RFE ;-) My thinking is that unless you are running lists >> yourself and experiencing this problem, it's not too likely to get >> much traction. > >If people agree that putting list members' real email addresses into >posts is a mis-feature, it just might. > I that is done, then how would you propose to direct mail a poster on a sensitive subject, such as a security issue might be a desireable thing? >Cheers >Steffen. -- Cheers, Gene People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word 'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which bypasses vz's stupid bounce rules. I do use spamassassin too. :-) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.