On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:03:35 -0700, Craig White wrote: [....] > but your question was...how can I be so dogmatic? The answer is > experience. I can repair the issues that crop up from upgrades better > than perhaps 60% of the users on this list. But I would say that perhaps > as much as 20 - 30% are not capable of dealing with anything but the GUI ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > and they shouldn't be doing upgrades. Unless you are willing to get down ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > to cli, and suffer through the issues, it's not recommended in my book. Having no idea off the top of my head what cli might be (I could look, fwiw, and will), I guess that makes me part of the 20 - 30% -- and glad to hear there are so many of us. At any rate, that was far and away the plainest most useful form of the answer, to the likes of me or us, that I've yet seen. Thank you, SIR, bounteously, for putting it in those terms! And lest there be any doubt, I mean every word exactly as written. Knowing about irony is part of the professional competence I do have, and there is none in what I said above. I love and prefer the command line, when I know enough or somebody tells me; otherwise, that GUI is Sine Qua Non Number One, especially while learning. I say again, with feeling, THANK YOU. -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck, Double Retiree, Not Quite Clueless Linux Power *User* : Fedora Core 4 [etc] I have precious (very precious) little idea where up is.