Re: From release notes for FC5T3 (web)

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On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 12:10 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 10:51, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> 
> > Right on spot. Everything installation was a bandaid over inflexible 
> > package management post installation to the point that the users felt 
> > that just selecting everything would save them a lot of potential  pain 
> > later.
> 
> The part about saving time is still probably true.  Who wants to
> be in the middle of something and run into missing programs
> needed to complete it?   And if you don't have at least one
> machine with 'everything' installed, how are you supposed to
> find out what is available and if you like it?
> 
Uh??   Lets see??  Maybe I could look at what is on the install media,
what is in Extras, and even on other repos.  Then ask questions if I
still need answers before I flood my drive with hundreds of apps that I
(an experienced user) will never use by doing an everything install.
Finding packages to do things is easier than ever and 5 minutes of
research to find and install a single package that I want to try saves
me a lot of headaches in other areas.

If I want a package to do X, then I search for one that does what I
need.  I don't want 1000 extra packages installed just because I *may*
want one of them 5 months from today.   

BTW, it is just as easy to do an "rpm
-Uvh /media/cdrecorder/fedora/RPMS/*.rpm" and get the same effect as
doing an everything install.  Or even do a "yum install \* " which will
get it as well.

The ease of doing that kind of bloated install is not gone, just moved
to another venue that is more friendly to a new user.

Please get off the "I want" bandwagon and think about the community as a
whole and alternative paths when you look at these changes.


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