On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 12:10 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 10:51, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > Right on spot. Everything installation was a bandaid over inflexible > > package management post installation to the point that the users felt > > that just selecting everything would save them a lot of potential pain > > later. > > The part about saving time is still probably true. Who wants to > be in the middle of something and run into missing programs > needed to complete it? And if you don't have at least one > machine with 'everything' installed, how are you supposed to > find out what is available and if you like it? > Uh?? Lets see?? Maybe I could look at what is on the install media, what is in Extras, and even on other repos. Then ask questions if I still need answers before I flood my drive with hundreds of apps that I (an experienced user) will never use by doing an everything install. Finding packages to do things is easier than ever and 5 minutes of research to find and install a single package that I want to try saves me a lot of headaches in other areas. If I want a package to do X, then I search for one that does what I need. I don't want 1000 extra packages installed just because I *may* want one of them 5 months from today. BTW, it is just as easy to do an "rpm -Uvh /media/cdrecorder/fedora/RPMS/*.rpm" and get the same effect as doing an everything install. Or even do a "yum install \* " which will get it as well. The ease of doing that kind of bloated install is not gone, just moved to another venue that is more friendly to a new user. Please get off the "I want" bandwagon and think about the community as a whole and alternative paths when you look at these changes.