-----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 6:26 PM To: For users of Fedora Core releases Subject: RE: FC5 - T3 On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 13:30 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Now.... getting back to the ORIGINAL problem... how to add ALL the > new packages that I foregoed in the installation of FC5-T3 and THEN > update it all. It has been a REAL CHORE!!! Grrrrrr.... Someone > ought to replace the crummy add/remove package manager for something > better. It is real hokey. I should have thought that yum, or something like yumex, would be the easiest way. And not to install then update, but simply install the latest available versions of packages, letting it resolve what's needed to go along with them. -- Unfortunately, yumex and package manager is really a bad design IMHO because when I went through all the trouble of identifying the packages I wanted installed (it was massive), all of these packages would spend 12 hours downloading GB of files from the Internet, start testing the transaction and either crash or hang the FC5-T3 completely, i.e I could no longer ping FC5-T3. Restarting the package programs, would perform a yum clean up effectively wiping out the 12 hours (3 times) or so downloaded package I was looking for the designer of these package program and wanted to say a few unkind words. I was definately displeased. Why do the designer of these package programs decide to do an automatic cleanup and don't even bother asking the user first is beyond me. Never mind that this is T3 - this is a really horendeous way to treat a tester when they cannot even download the updates or packages needed to get FC5-T3 updated to a useful state. Maybe the best thing to do is to download the RPM files and do a rpm manual install and toss these package managers completely out of my FC5-T3 system. Hell, with yumex, I tried to select 5 packages - it went through the whole thing up to transaction testing and the whole program dropped dead, i.e. the entire application program disappeared and no trace/log of what the heck happened. Yumex is in serious need of repair - it is extremely unstable. Package Manager is probably more stable but is dumber than an ox. I think I will stop here and take a long break. I will let the other testers do the fun part of testing. I am just not going to continue to rubber hose my self and scream 'mea culpa'. Had enough, Dan
