On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 22:18 +1030, Tim wrote: > On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 19:26 -0500, Scot L. Harris wrote: > > But there are other tools that can be used to fight spam if you don't > > like greylisting. No one is forcing it on you. > > Yes, they are. Because when you try to post to someone where they use > it, it is *forced* on you. You can't avoid it. > > > In my experience it has been an excellent tool with no real downside. > > You seem to be ignoring the objections that have been raised. And I > mean *ignoring* them, as if such problems didn't exist. I have not ignored the objections. If you have an MTA that is not RFC compliant that is your problem. If it is RFC compliant then your message will get through. If you think your message is critical and you don't get a response the second after you send it then you should phone the person to find out what happened. In my experience with greylisting I have not seen any messages except spam get dropped completely. Initial messages from a particular user may be delayed but they get through. Greylisting uses the rules as documented in the RFCs to solve the spam problem. It is your perception that email should be instantaneous that is the issue. There are other communications methods that should be used in those cases where that is really needed.