I installed a newly downloaded FC-4. I installed the latest updates, but not the extras. I have my init level set to 3, and I use startx. I worked for a while. I locked the KDE session but when I tried to unlock it, it would not to it. It said that I had to stop something manually. I did a cold boot. I can't login at all. Any suggestions other than reinstalling. Thanks, Mike. -- Michael D. Berger m.d.berger@xxxxxxxx