On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 14:21 +0000, Andy Green wrote: > > what does > > ll /bin/su > > say? Something like this? > > -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 78837 Jul 25 16:36 /bin/su > > especially the first part > > -rws > > -Andy It says: "[jon@localhost ~]$ ll /bin/su -rwxr-xr-x 1 jon root 59740 Jul 25 17:39 /bin/su" I've tried typing my password slowly, checking my keyboard layout, changing password, _removing_ the password from /etc/shadow and creating a new one, but alas. I just get "incorrect password" from the terminal.