thx for your reply craig, weird though, which doesnt see it, rpm doesnt, neither does the cmd line. [root@linland tmp]# id uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root),1(bin),2(daemon),3(sys),4(adm),6 (disk),10(wheel) [root@linland tmp]# which yum /usr/bin/which: no yum in (/usr/kerberos/sbin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/root/bin) [root@linland tmp]# yum -bash: yum: command not found [root@linland tmp]# rpm -ql yum package yum is not installed is it supposed to be installed after an everything install of fc4 ? i thought i had done all on the distribution, was i supposed to load it later? thx... On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 15:50 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 14:37 -0800, jackc wrote: > > hi folks, > > > > this list has informed me of the error of my ways installing > > rpm's directly and not using yum. > > > > however, i installed everything and i see no yum as the root user. > > > > what else am i missing? > ---- > using rpm is fine - yum uses it too. > > It's just that yum can automatically obtain and install dependent > packages thereby alleviating much of the headaches that you would likely > have simply trying to install things via rpm commands. > > to verify that you have yum... > > # which yum > Note the # which means that I done an 'su -' to root > > # rpm -ql yum|less > Note that this shows me where the yum rpm puts it's files > > # yum update > Note that this checks all installed repositories for updates > > Which of these commands doesn't work for you? > > Craig > -- Jack Craig XPath/SAS Team Brocade Communications Systems, Inc. 1600 Technology Dr. San Jose, CA 95110 408.333.7478 Direct E-mail: jcraig@xxxxxxxxxxx