Howdy, I installed the complete set for KDE in FC4,w/patches, along with the development set. Switched over to KDE and set up kmail and konqueror. Tried to install a certificate in kmail and it indicated that the chiasmus software was missing. Checked konqueror and it essentially gave an error. Dug a little deeper, and found that libkleopatra was available, but apparently no crypto plugin was available to allow use of certificates in either program. Is the crypto plugin available for KDE? Ed Beranek