On Sunday 01 January 2006 06:47, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote: >Florin Andrei írta: >>On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 18:46 +0100, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote: >>>Well, I have installed FC3 that way (XFS on most partitions) >>>and now I regret it. All the time I have a power failure (very >>> rare) or a kernel crash, all the files that were opened O_RDWR >>> contain only zeroes after reboot. >> >>It's best if there's a match between the tools and the purpose. >> >>XFS was designed first and foremost for performance. Clean behaviour >> in the case of sudden loss of power to the processing unit is not >> exactly a high-priority design constraint for systems such as >> these... >> >>http://www.sgi.com/products/ >> >>...since the processing unit is always behind at least one layer of >>backup/redundant/uninterruptible power supplies. >> >>However, the highest performance possible is one of (if not THE) >> most important design constraints. >>Another assumption behind XFS is that storage is the best quality >> and therefore it does not lie when it reports back that the data >> was flushed all the way to the magnetic layer (which is something >> that cheap IDE drives/cards lie about, sometimes). >> >>Bottom line: use Ext3 for the general-purpose partitions. Use XFS >> for your MythTV partition, or the one used to do video capture, DVD >> backups, ISO images, etc. >>At least that's what I do. > >I wanted XFS for that purpose, too. > >Anyway, I intend to retire this 2 years old Maxtor, >please suggest a SATA drive that would be reliable. >Is IBM/Hitachi Deskstar known to not lie about the flush? > Is that not a typo above, and should be IBM/Hitachi DeathStar? >>>And most of the time the Oops points to the xfs driver. >> >>It's been many years since I've last seen an oops on healthy >> hardware while using a "vanilla" Fedora / Red Hat install, with or >> without XFS. > >I have reported a "Bad page state" for vanilla 2.6.14 on LKML, XFS > was definitely involved: > >Bad page state at prep_new_page (in process 'cc1', page > ffff8100011e1278) flags:0x4000000000000004 mapping:0000000000000000 > mapcount:0 count:-2228224 Backtrace: > >Call Trace:<ffffffff8015def1>{bad_page+113} ><ffffffff8015ea01>{buffered_rmqueue+609} > <ffffffff8015ec93>{__alloc_pages+243} ><ffffffff8016add7>{do_no_page+279} > <ffffffff8016b339>{__handle_mm_fault+425} ><ffffffff8017c913>{do_sync_read+211} > <ffffffff80352646>{do_page_fault+998} ><ffffffff8822505e>{:xfs:xfs_inactive_free_eofblocks+174} > <ffffffff88225240>{:xfs:xfs_release+160} > <ffffffff80195f13>{dput+35} <ffffffff8017dce7>{__fput+375} > <ffffffff8010f369>{error_exit+0} > >Trying to fix it up, but a reboot is needed > >Best regards, >Zoltán Böszörményi -- Cheers, Gene People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word 'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which bypasses vz's stupid bounce rules. I do use spamassassin too. :-) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.