Re: Eclipse & Oracle10g-EE

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Hi

It's probably not me who can give good advice, but our situation seems to be similar. I mean I have an system plan, partly written code in MS C# and an near fully written DBMS. Now I'm on to way to work in JAVA, to aviod all possible tipical MS problem.

The first question I had if I was going to use GPL or not? It because the copyleft. I don't want to make that program free. It is going to be an explicit economical system. Why should I make it free? But with GPL I would have to. This is the reason why the ORACLE could be better than
MS-SQL or Postgree-SQL (which I haven't used yet anyway).

I read the licence possibilities at mysql.com and they offer two kind of licences. One is the GPL, and the other one is when you should pay. That's not a way I colud go on. I think you neither.

One more thing. I tried Eclipse if I colud work in it. I don't know it yet, but it seems fair system. On the other hand it is freezing on my FC4 (fully updated) system.
Both the Fedora built in version and what I have download from Eclipse.

Also I found that anyone can download and use the Sun Java Studio freely after a simple registration in their developer center.

I'm no sure which one I will use at last, but there are several chance, we can think about!
Yes, and don't forget the "awfull" problem with the right!


Peter


On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 23:54:34 +0100, Ali Helmy <alihelmy@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hey,

About Eclipse, why isn't the version with fedora good enough? Are there some
bugs or problems I should know about? I am going to develop the app as a
java program, to work on windows JVM, but I'm going to develop it on FC4...
What version do you think I should use?

About source control, I haven't really thought about which one to use, but I think I will stick to CVS since it's most popular on the www, and since you
say it fits with Eclipse...

About DBMS, as I said, I want the app to work on windows in the end, so
Oracle is the DBMS I know that has both linux & SQL distributions... Are
there any others that are good enough? I won't be needing any complex
features, just normal SQL queries...

Thanks

On 1/1/06, Rich Stanford <rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Saturday 31 December 2005 3:57 pm, Sean Bruno wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-12-31 at 23:48 +0200, Ali Helmy wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > I need to develop a software for a small company, but I really feel
> > that I want to make it all based on free-software... The software will
> > include some code (Duh) which I will write in Java, along with a
> > DBMS...
> >
> > So, I was thinking of using Eclipse for developing the software, and
> > using the new free Oracle 10g-Express Edition as the DBMS...
>

Eclipse is a butt-kicking development environment.  I would not use the
version that comes with Fedora, though.  I want more control over my
development environment so I usually install it separately.  I also
install
Java separately and then control it with environmental variables.

> If you are going to learn a new database, i.e. you haven't worked with
> Oracle before, why not use PostgreSQL or MySQL...

I agree with Sean here.  PostgreSQL or MySQL will be quite a bit less
complicated to set up and administer than Oracle.  And, if you stick to
mostly "standard" SQL, your applications will be fairly transferable
between
DBMS.


> > Have any of you tried this combination before? I think I'm settled
> > about using Eclipse to develop the software, but how about the DBMS?
> > Suggestions?
>
> If you need an alternative to Eclipse, try Kdevelop.  However, eclipse
> is a very useful piece of software for what you are starting.
>
> Furthermore, what source control system is the application going to be
> maintained under?  CVS, subversion, etc....

Critical piece of advice here. Be sure that you pick a good one (Eclipse works with CVS "out of the box"). Quite often people discount the source
control system.  Where I work, we have over 750Mg of source code under
CVS.


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