On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 10:10 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: > Again, the point was that some claim that ext3 does not and will > not fragment files which are not dynamic. I claimed that fragmentation > can occur simply due to install of software, which some claimed > will not and does not occur with ext3. I think that I have demonstrated > my point. In fact, I was quite shocked that it was as bad as that, > frankly. Hi Mike, OK, fragmentation can and sometimes does occur. You've explained why and how. So the next logical question is: what difference, if any, does it make? Can you or anyone else come up with a way to measure the effect or some aspect of it? Perhaps a benchmark that shows how application startup times suffer? I'm not a filesystems guru, but even so its not at all clear to me that fragmentation must necessarily cause a big or repeated performance hit. Given Linux's VM, it seems plausible that an initial file load might suffer (maybe a lot or maybe a tiny bit?) and that subsequent file accesses will be from pages already cached in RAM. We should all keep open minds and, if possible, generate some actual benchmark data! Ed -- Edward H. Hill III, PhD office: MIT Dept. of EAPS; Rm 54-1424; 77 Massachusetts Ave. Cambridge, MA 02139-4307 emails: eh3@xxxxxxx ed@xxxxxxx URLs: http://web.mit.edu/eh3/ http://eh3.com/ phone: 617-253-0098 fax: 617-253-4464