On Tuesday 27 December 2005 21:00, Patrick Barnes wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Tuesday 27 December 2005 19:18, John Summerfied wrote: >> >William Hooper wrote: >> >> Kam Leo wrote: >> >>>On 12/23/05, William Hooper <whooperhsd3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>>>Kam Leo wrote: >> >>>>[snip] >> >>>> >> >>>>>The exact details are still being discussed in the >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>fedora-websites-list . >> >>>>> >> >>>>>The way this is being handled is kind of stealthy (clubmembers >> >>>>> only) >> >>>> >> >>>>How is a publicly archived and open to all subscribers mailing >> >>>> list "clubmembers only"? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>-- >> >>>>William Hooper >> >>> >> >>>If the links have been removed how does one get informed about >> >>> the list or membership? >> >> >> >> All the Redhat (and Fedora) mailing lists are still listed in >> >> the same place: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/ >> >> >> >> The creation of the list was announced on the fedora-marketing >> >> list: >> >> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-Novem >> >>ber /msg00006.html >> > >> >Great. How many current and prospective Fedora fans does that >> > reach? >> >> An educated guess, based on 71 years of observing, would be maybe >> 0.00003% of zip. Get real, if you want folks to know about >> something, then by damn post it to the list thats got the >> circulation, not to some list where the main point is to invent a >> new buzzword_du_jour. Geez, the marketing numbskulls we have to put >> up with, boggles the mind... > >If you two are going to troll, do it elsewhere. I had no intention of being a 'troll' as you call it. I was calling attention to the apparent lack of publicity however. >We aren't out to create a list that every user on the planet is meant > to sign up for and use. It, like most of the other Fedora lists, is > primarily for relevant developer discussion. People who are > motivated enough to provide feedback can find the list the same way > as all of the other lists are found, and signing up for the list is > not a big request. If it were, so many people wouldn't already to > it. As far as notifying users of the changes, yes, we needed to do > more, and we've taken further steps now. Some of the people who > maintain the sites, such as myself, do watch for user feedback on > this list and in other places. It isn't hard to reach us. > >As far as bashing the Marketing team, that is completely unwarranted. >It is a small team of volunteers who are chasing developments to get >things done. If you think you can make a positive contribution, > you're welcome to join. If you think that the efforts of our team > members are unsatisfactory, I'm sorry you feel that way, but being > insulting and doing nothing isn't going to accomplish anything. Well, we did get a response, and a positive one at that. As for the implied insult, I wasn't trying to be personal about it Patrick. My aplogies if you took it that way. What I was pointing out was the inconguity of publishing the info on a list with what, 50 subscribers? End of thread (I hope) >-- >Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes >nman64@xxxxxxxxx > >http://www.n-man.com/ -- Cheers, Gene People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word 'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which bypasses vz's stupid bounce rules. I do use spamassassin too. :-) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
