My problem was after updating xmms using up2date, I opened xmms, went into preferences and saw that I retained all my input plug-ins but when I tried to click (Gnome) on the output plug-ins, it would not open...as if they all had been eradicated. So I deleted xmms and tried to install an earlier version as was suggested. I am somewhat new to Linux and could not install it. I didn't know where to put it for one thing...(/usr/local)? So I put it in my Home Directory and kept getting an error message something about "recursive". My methodology for using Linux is definately not the best; I usually keep fumbling around until I get something to work. By the time I get it to work, I have forgotten the steps that I took. My other music player still works, but I like xmms best. Thanks. -- G. Hare