Dear wwp, ww> a few years ago I was using a simple X11 color selector to pick up colors ww> from color groups. I could get the name or the value.. First I can't even ww> remember the name of this simple X program :-\, and I'd like to know if ww> there's another equivalent (Gnome, X11 or KDE) for FC3? I use "kcolorchooser" which is shipped with one of the KDE packages (do not really know with which one though). There is also a panel applet in KDE which can do the job -- Best Regards, Alexander Mamchenkov http://alex.mamchenkov.net