I updated an FC3 computer to FC4. Printing didn't work on it when it was FC3. The printer won't appear in system-config-printers after the update. It didn't before the update either. I did a bunch of tracing and figured out that something was wrong with dbus and haldaemon. I went to system-config-services and stopped hald. When I restart it, it gives an error: haldaemon failed. The error was: Starting HAL daemon: [60G[[0;31mFAILED[0;39m] OK... I go to /etc/init.d and find haldaeon. Starting and stopping it gives: #./haldaemon start Starting HAL daemon: [FAILED] OK. I go into haldaemon and find: ================================================================ processname=hald servicename=haldaemon RETVAL=0 start() { echo -n $"Starting HAL daemon: " daemon --check $servicename $processname --retain-privileges ... ================================================================= So... I try it manually: hald --daemon=yes --verbose=yes --retain-privileges 20:24:16.452 [I] hald.c:495: hal 0.5.2 20:24:16.452 [I] hald.c:497: Will daemonize 20:24:16.452 [I] hald.c:507: Becoming a daemon No errors ! I can't find the path to daemon to see if I can call hald like it does in haldaemon. Any ideas ? -- Kim Lux, Diesel Research Inc.