Les Mikesell wrote: > If I use a GUI tool with some kind of visual search >I never know how to start or how to describe it. Aside from >every tool being different and rarely scriptable for repeated >actions, every action depends on context to an extent that >makes re-using what you've learned impossible. Obviously >I don't expect to have used the same GUI concept usefully >for 20 years, but I can't think of much that has worked the >same for even 5. ah, well that's just never going to happen. everybody fancies themselves a GUI designer (or GUI re-designer), and very few are working in environments where meddling with a functional GUI is considered a sin (these environments do exist, some parts of my day job have such constraints; they are taken very seriously and with good reason.) richard