On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 23:10 -0800, Justin Zygmont wrote: > sounds like the GUI tools arent using the UPG scheme where each user > is in their own group, not sure if it is a bug, but it seems like it > probably is. It just goes to show the command line is the best way to > use an OS. I really hate reading that. There are crap CLI tools as well as GUI tools. It's not a case that GUI or CLI is better or worse than each other, but that some programmers are. CLI tools are heavily dependent on good documentation. Some documentation is absolutely crap, if there even is any. GUI tools can be intuitively designed, if the designer has any idea about creating good GUIs. Both problems rest squarely on the shoulders of who programmed them, not the GUI or CLI. -- Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.