jdow wrote:
> The uol.com.br people have a strong reputation for corruption.
I can't speak to that.
> The
> folks stuck using that domain's smarthost are toast so many ways it
> hurts.
A Google on uol.com.br and spam (or sspam) is interesting...
> All the poor person can do is get a gmail account to get around
> it.
Unfortunately, previous experience has been that people can and do
forward list mail from something like a gmail account to a uol.com.br
account ... where it promptly sends "authentication" spam to the
original senders. And that's almost impossible to track (read:
uol.com.br throws away the information we need).
> I've so far gotten 55 of their spams for the 6 messages I posted
> last night.
You're right, they do count as spams. They're unwanted, they're bulk,
and they're certainly e-mail. I wouldn't blame anyone for blocking the
entire domain, except there seems to be a slightly less drastic
option...
> I simply ignore them - well, actually I have both those
> AntiSpam UOL messages blocked in procmail with a moderately specific
> test but also a more general from uol.com.br at the moment. I have
> both feeding a uol_crap mbox file which I can check, maybe once a
> month or whenever I feel like it. If I ever see a legitimate mail in
> that folder I'll stop blocking everything.
All the uol.com.br challenge/responses match .*\.sspam@uol\.com\.br
(in other words, the e-mail addresses end in .sspam@xxxxxxxxxx ). You
can procmail on that and be pretty sure you're getting their
challenge/response e-mails, but not killfiling any "real" mail.
> But I will NEVER respond
> to a challenge/response ticket. It is a very wrong solution to the
> spam problem.
>
> {^_^}
Not to bulk e-mail. I might *if* I had a rather plaintive user e-mail me
directly (not going via Red Hat's servers) asking why they weren't
getting any list e-mail or why they weren't allowed to subscribe...
Of course, I'd use a throwaway account. I'm not stupid.
James.
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