On Thu, 2005-10-11 at 23:53 -0800, Kenneth Porter wrote: > > Anyway, when an ISP decides to prevent users from the user running their > > own DNS server, it's usually done by them preventing you from making > > outgoing connections on the ported used for DNS queries. Either > > blocking it, or forcing you through their own systems (like transparent > > proxying). > > Which ISP's are moronic enough to pull that crap? (So we know who to avoid, > and to recommend against when asked by our colleagues.) Rogers (cable company) in Canada is one of them. They have plans for consumers and businesses, but their agreement stipulates you can't run DNS servers under any of their plans. Rogers has also banned email servers. Well, you can't send email using port 25, so authenticating with their servers first is necessary. In the end, the effect is the same. I've been looking for a DSL alternative for years, but in my area there are no other options. Regards, Ranbir -- Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu Systems Aligned Inc. www.systemsaligned.com