On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 09:44, Derek Martin wrote: > On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 01:21:15PM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: > > > I sort > > > of like the idea of having users take the extra efforts to get the > > > binary only software installed so they at least recognize that there is > > > a distinction. > > > > Yes, especially if they notice that the distinction is that the people > > who build the hardware do a better job of writing the drivers. > > They often don't though. That's the problem, and it's been proven out > throughout the history of Linux. > > Intel took over the maintenance of the ether pro 100 driver. What > happened? Tranceiver lock-ups when the card got busy. Adaptec took > over maintenance of the AIC7xxx drivers for Linux. What happened? > CRASH. And the proprietary NVidia drivers are widely known to crash > systems... even with kernels that they used to develop and test the > driver on. Granted, the XFree/Xorg drivers lack the performance and > some of the features of the proprietary driver, but they also don't > crash my system. AFAIK, the same is true of the other OSS drivers, > including the DRI ones. New code gets new bugs... If you want to try to claim that the source-available drivers have never had bugs or crashed or been abandoned, you won't get far since a search of this mailing list will easily disprove it. Have those bugs been fixed? Were they triggered by changes in kernel API's? > The only reason the OSS NVidia driver isn't better than the > proprietary one is because the vendor won't release the specs to code > the thing. Which of the OSS drivers have measurably better performance than a vendor-written driver on some other OS? -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx