Hahahahaha. Sorry folks. I DO appreaciate your comments but as I said before, that there is *something else* going on, after all... I had no reported problems before. One of the respondents clued me in, that this problem was occuring AT BOOT TIME. Only ONCE. I tried the comprehensive test (smartctl -t long /dev/hdb) and there was no reported problems. So when I ran the smartctl -a /dev/hdb, I saw that there was a message that the drive may need a firmware update with LINKS PROVIDED!!!!! THAT IS SO DARN COOL!!!! So, I went to the site, downloaded the firmware, updated it, and the drive had the updated firmware. I rebooted and smartctl reported no problems at boot! I ran the long test again, no problems. I saved a few bucks for now.... :-D Dan -----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Charles Curley Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 6:01 PM To: For users of Fedora Core releases Subject: Re: Smartd message: What does it mean? On Sat, Oct 29, 2005 at 12:02:27AM -0700, jdow wrote: > Do not pass go. Do not collect $100. Do not dilly dally around. Get a > new drive and move over to it. Your only hope that it is something else > is the possibility of a flaky ATA cable. Betting on this is like taking > the bad odds at a craps shoot. Joanne is correct. First off, the fact that smartd is reporting N bad sectors does not mean that you only have N bad sectors. You probably also have a bunch that the firmware has already either re-allocated (hiding the fact that they are bad), or recovered (if the defect is small enough) and re-written. When a drive is manufactured, it is tested, and a list of bad sectors is created. These sectors are re-allocated from spares, and the substitution is utterly transparent to the OS. When (not if) a new defect occurs, the drive will re-read the sector a number of times, and try various tricks to recover the data. The smaller the defect, the greater likelihood of recovering the data. If the defect is small enough, the drive will simply re-write the sector, end of discusion. When (not if) the defect gets large enough, the drive will re-allocate a substitute sector from a list of spares, and mark the old one as bad. That list of spares will eventually be exhausted, which can happen in a matter of minutes. However, the fact that the drive has enough bad sectors that the firmware is reporting them to you means that you have more bad sectors than there were on the drive since it was manufactured. Your drive is warning you that it is about to die. Yes, it may take several years to die. On the other hand it could take 15 minutes. 15 seconds. Now, how much do you want to bet that it will be toward the several years end of things? How much is your time worth? I'd rather spend a few bucks on a new hard drive, copy the data over, and be good to go than try to recover data from a dieing drive. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. Been paid big bucks to do it for other people. Do as the lady says. Now. Then start doing regular backups. -- Charles Curley /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Looking for fine software \ / Respect for open standards and/or writing? X No HTML/RTF in email http://www.charlescurley.com / \ No M$ Word docs in email Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/151 - Release Date: 10/28/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/151 - Release Date: 10/28/2005
