Claude Jones wrote:
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 3:29 pm, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 13:57, Robert Locke wrote:
My argument is that the "Everything" install needs to die!! <evil grin>
How do you propose that people should learn which thousand programs
they might want to use if there isn't a convenient way to get them
all at once? And how will fedora get it's bugs fixed if nobody
installs the stuff and reports them?
I would add an amen - I started using Linux 16 months ago. I tried several of
the install options before settling on 'everything'. I kept running into
situations where I just didn't know enough to deal with various situations.
People would discuss programs and other things that didn't seem to exist, for
example. In another few months, I will probably go to more selective installs
and not do the 'everything' option any longer. But for this user, having
everything on my machine was a lot more important than security. I really
could have cared less these past 16 months whether my system got attacked or
not - it was a learning machine, not a production box. I hope things are left
just the way they are. Add a security warning to the 'everything' option, but
don't remove it.
I switched to Fedora almost 2 months ago, did an "everything" install,
and read yum's manpage to figure out how to do things (I'm coming from
10 years of Slackware, here). First thing after that was get a listing
of all the packages I had installed, then figure out which ones I wasn't
familiar with, got the info for them, and decided whether to keep them
or not. The Canna packages went (I don't do Japanese), the extra
language packages went next (I only do English on this system), then
those funky kernel packages. They don't apply to my rather modest system
(1 GHz PIII, 256Mb RAM, 200Gb HD, 24xCDR), and I haven't had any
problems. I have also stuck with the "regular" repos, I don't use livna
or the other one; I've dodged a few bullets this way. The collection of
packages that is in the "regular" distribution of FC4 seems more than
adequate; if I need packages that aren't in this distro, there is always
RPM and it's headaches; if you want to learn about your system, learn
RPM and use that for anything out of the mainstream. You will definitely
have a learning experience.. ;)
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