Re: the proper way to 'yum update' a new 'everything' install of FC4?

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On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, William Hooper wrote:

>
> Mike McCarty wrote:
> > Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >
> >
> >> fair enough.  but in that case, something should be tweaked to deal with
> >> this since i would still contend that a fresh install should be able to
> >> be "yum update"d without messing around with anything.
> >
> > It sounds like a request that the repositories be kept internally
> > consistent, and packaged. I agree that one should be able to update an
> > everything install right out of the box.
>
> I don't think holding a kernel update (for the "wide audience")
> until the external modules (for the "narrow audience") are ready is
> a good answer. A better answer would be to just install what you
> need, that way you don't needlessly get tripped up by "narrow
> audience" issues.  By choosing an "Everything" install you choose to
> get tripped up by _every_ packaging issue there is, whether you use
> those packages or not.

i don't buy that argument.  i suspect many people do an "Everything"
install simply because:

1) disk space is cheap, and

2) they're not sure exactly what they want so they'll just put it all
in to play it safe.

simply put, the two operations of 1) install everything, and 2) "yum
update" are common enough that they should just work.  we're not
talking about obscure, rarely-used actions here.

rday

p.s.  i would think that, based on your position that the external
modules are for the "narrow audience," it would make more sense to
remove them from the basic install and make them part of "Extras."  if
you need them, they'd be easy to find.


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