In FC4, the messages on shutdown or runlevel changes seem to go to vt8, instead of vt1 as with previous releases. I thought this was due to RHGB, but it seems to happen even with it disabled. A side-effect is that shutdowns proceed with a blank screen unless a key is pressed. Also, single user mode goes onto vt8. Where are the messages redirected to a different terminal? I've had a look thought all the init scripts but I can't find it. Jonathan -- http://jonathan.rawle.org/