On Fri, 2005-30-09 at 21:02 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Fri, 2005-09-30 at 17:42, Guy Fraser wrote: > > > > > Every release of RHL was a > > > > > tremendous step forward until 8.0 since then there has been one > > > > What was wrong? > > > > > > > > > It had nothing to do with the 2.6 kernel or frequent updates. It > > had to do with dropping support for many of the command line and > > applications many people used and wanted to continue using. It > > also involved changes to the kernel that made it impossible for > > most people to get some of their applications to compile, which > > is partly why they were dropped by Red Hat. Unfortunately if > > anyone were to build their own kernel, they would then have to > > constantly maintain it, whenever security vulnerabilities were > > discovered. In any case things broke without warning and no > > remedies were provided by Red Hat, the package was just dropped > > in the next release. Many of these packages are still maintained > > and available on other distributions, contrary to many of the > > excuses given at the time. > > > > I can not continue, I feel a rant coming on. > > I can't think of anything offhand that worked on RH7.x that > doesn't work in Centos3.x. Elm, maybe... Examples??? > Elm, Pico, Wine, Word Perfect and Gatos Drivers are all I can think of now. Some of these may have been fixed by now but I have replaced hardware and started using terminal services to use the programs I needed to have running in wine. Some of these are available in other repositories now, but that did not help back then. It also didn't help how I felt when I was billed for a one year RHN subscription a month before the announcement that in 6 months RHL 9 would no longer be supported. It's a little late to be concerned about this now, the reputation was damaged quite a while ago. And the arrogant attitudes that caused the rift, persist to this day. Unless you have pull within RH, I suggest you drop the inquisition, all you are doing is reminding me and many others of problems that upset them from back around that time. If I didn't have customers using RH products I would not be here now. I have moved all our servers to FreeBSD and only keep one FC workstation around for testing.
