After I upgraded my RH9 system to FC4, I could not use up2date. The error message is that it could not import yum. I searched and could not find yum related packages in my system. I tried to search and download yum from my red hat network account. My system used to have a demo subscription in this account. Now it says 0 system is subscribed. But somehow when I search for software packages, it thinks my system is a RH8 and does not find any yum related packages. It seems like a catch-22 situation. I went to RPMFIND.NET and found 3 linux/noarch rpms that seem to be related to yum: yum-updateonboot, yum-utils, and yumex. Are these the right rpms to install? Do I need all of them? Hsin Wang