On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 07:39:41AM -0500, Jeff Vian wrote: > On Tue, 2005-09-20 at 20:42 -0500, akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 08:31:52PM -0500, Jeff Vian wrote: > > > On Tue, 2005-09-20 at 16:29 -0500, akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 11:45:59AM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > > > > > Deepak Shrestha wrote: > > > > > >Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > >In my FC4, I have made a link to floppy device (KDE) > > > > > >but coundn't mount it (in user mode). when I try to > > > > > >mount the floppy, KDE ends up with error > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------- > > > > > >Could not mount device > > > > > > > > > > > >The reported error was > > > > > > > > > > > >mount: I couln't determine the the filesystem type, > > > > > >and none was specified > > > > > > How did you mount it? There are 2 forms of the command. One uses the > > > fstab entry and works as a user and one does not. > > > > > > If you use the form "mount <mountpoint>" the mount command looks at the > > > entry in fstab and a standard user on the console should be able to > > > mount it. I use "mount /media/floppy" and it works. > > > > > > If instead you use the long form "mount <device> <mountpoint>" it also > > > requires the "-t" option to specify the filesystem type "mount -t > > > <filesystem> <device> <mountpoint>". Using this form as a normal user > > > without the "-t" gives the error you see. With the "-t" it will tell > > > you that only root can mount (unless you are already root). Note that > > > as root you often do not need the -t, this seems to be part of the > > > security features built into the mount command for verifying privileges > > > for a user. > > What you are saying is interesting but counter to my previous > > experience. If user is not on the /media/floppy line it has never > > before in my experience been possible for a normal user to mount a > > floppy using any command at all. What you are saying is in at variance > > with the statements in man-page of fstab. > > > > However, I can't argue that is is not working at this time for me on > > both my FC4 machines but not for the poster of the original message. > > That is certainly strange. > > I am not sure what you are seeing. I just repeated the test on my > system (FC4, fully updated) with these results. > > [jeff@eagle ~]$ mount /media/floppy > [jeff@eagle ~]$ ls /media/floppy > aspi2dos.sys autoexec.bat drvspace.bin findramd.exe oakcdrom.sys > aspi4dos.sys btcdrom.sys ebd.cab flashpt.sys ramdrive.sys > aspi8dos.sys btdosm.sys ebd.sys himem.sys readme.txt > aspi8u2.sys command.com extract.exe io.sys setramd.bat > aspicd.sys config.sys fdisk.exe msdos.sys > [jeff@eagle ~]$ umount /media/floppy > [jeff@eagle ~]$ ls /media/floppy > [jeff@eagle ~]$ > > The line in my fstab is: > /dev/fd0 /media/floppy auto pamconsole,exec,noauto,managed 0 0 > > -------------- > So, mounting as a regular user from the console works for me. The > problem for the OP may be due to his version and update status, but for > me it has worked flawlessly since (IIRC) FC3. I use a floppy very > seldom, so I am not 100% sure when it became possible for the regular > user to mount a floppy by default. > > I tested with/without the pamconsole option, and with it a normal user > can mount the device. Without it only the root user can mount the > device. I am seeing just what you are seeing. Obviously if you do a mount -t auto -o .... /dev/df0 /media/floppy it does not matter what fstab says. But since forever in Unix and Linux when you do a mount like: mount /media/floppy which depends on the line in fstab then a user cannot mount the floppy unless user is in the options section of the fstab. In says this in the man-page for fstab. However, I have a line like yours in my fstab and I can mount floppies. Since FC3 the floppy line is fstab has been managed by fstab-sync. As I said try to put user in the fstab line and reboot . You will see the user option will disappear. Bottom line thinks have changed, They are not as they used to be. I believe you that maybe pamconsole takes on part of the job of user as an option. But we have really not helped the original poster very much. ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University telephone: (210)-999-7484
