Under FC3 (and, I think, FC2) there was a gui to assist in reading the logs under KDE, and accessed under the 'System Tools' menu. Since reinstalling and updating my setup I can't seem to find it. Has it been discontinued please, and if not, how do I re-enable it? Hopefully thanks Sharon. -- 15:19:56 up 4 days, 22:37, 3 users, load average: 1.56, 1.47, 1.54 A taste of linux http://www.sharons.org.uk/taste/index.html efever http://www.efever.blogspot.com/ Fedora Core 4, KDE 3.4.2-1.2, OpenOffice 1.9.117 Registered Linux user 334501