You *sure* the both machines have the exact RPM and BIOS configuration? Sounds like a different configuration to me. As for X zap, I've yet to see it fails.* * Unless the machine has OOpsed. Gilboa ----- Original Message ----- From: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxx Date: Monday, September 12, 2005 5:57 pm Subject: Re: A further ctrl-alt-backspace mystery. > On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 04:27:06PM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > What problems are you having? > > What is that crazy state? > > On what machine configuration does this crazy state happen? > > > > Gilboa > > > > On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 07:54 -0500, akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 10:37:10AM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > > > In general, a simple change in the BIOS AGP/PCI settings can > cause a > > > > stable machine to go wild. > > > > Can you post the machine hardware configuration? > > > > BTW, "DontZap" "False" is the default. You can delete it > altogether.> > > > I don't know where to start. Let us take two machines with the same > hardware as an example: > Dell Precision 380 > Intel P4 multi-threaded 3.0 Ghz. > ATI Technologies video cars V380 with 16 Mb of memory. > usb keyboard and mouse. (by the way it is not clear how one specifies > that you have a usb keyboard rather then a pci keyboard. Can anyone > tell me that?) > > As side issue we have machines where ctrl-alt-backspace does not work > unless "DontZap" "False" is explicitly in the xorg.conf) > > Obviously I should not have said the machine goes into crazy state > when ctrl-alt-backspace is hit, But I did not know how to indicate > that machines with different architectures do different things when > this key sequence is struck. > > Right now the two Precision 380-s with the same system software do > different things when the key sequence is struck. One blackens the > screen and after a few seconds redisplays the gdm login screen. The > other displays lines similar to those when changing to init level 3 > ending in a prompt. However, today I waited the machines out and let > it do its thing. After 20 seconds or so the prompt disappears and the > login screen reappears. So in the end both end up doing the job but > one seems to think about it longer. > > This time difference to reboot the login screen shows up in comparing > other pairs of machines of the same architecture but in a second case > one of the machines reboots the login screen in 3 seconds the other > has the machine go black for much longer before the login screen > appears. > > All this is so amorphous that I don't expect anyone to have a specific > solution. But what I am understanding from the group is that > ctrl-alt-backspace works for other people without a problem. > Is that correct? > -- > > ======================================================================= > Bilbo's First Law: > You cannot count friends that are all packed up in barrels. > ------------------------------------------- > Aaron Konstam > Computer Science > Trinity University > telephone: (210)-999-7484 >