I guess I periodically need to do a CUPS rant. So here it is. system-config-printer does not really configure CUPS printers. If you don't beleve me try to change the configuration of a printer using system-config-printer by using the CUPS web interface (localhost:631) or by using the actual CUPS configuration commands which are principally lpadmin and lpoptions. It can't be done. system-config-printer fakes CUPS printing , I suspect, through the secret program running in the background called printconf-backend. And if you insist on using lpd protocol rather than the CUPS ipp protocol you are aided by the cups-lpd daemon. system-config-printer works most of the time but when you get into shared printers or print servers you quickly get yourself in trouble. Configuring clients for a print-server under real CUPS is trivial. You do nothing except put a line in the client.conf file on the client telling it which print server you want to use. People seem to be complaining more and more on printing failing on their FC4 machines and if the printers were configured using system-config-printer that may well happen. CUPS has been the printing system in fedora for a while and in FC4 it works as it should and therefore it should be used. The best way to start is to configure printers using the CUPS web interface and set the default printer using lpoptions although it probably can also be done in the web interface. All the documentation is available through the web interface so finding out how it works should not be a problem. That is my rant and I am sticking by it. ======================================================================= A real person has two reasons for doing anything ... a good reason and the real reason. ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University telephone: (210)-999-7484