For grins I tried the New Login menu item under System Tools. And, I am now currently re-installing Fedora 4 (fc4). As soon as I pressed the menu button the screen went blank. And after that I could never get into an X display again! I tried everything, I even did a find to locate all of the most recently modified files. And there weren't any that related to xorg, or gdm, etc... I'm using a Compaq EVO 850dt, with a NVidia GeForce2 card, it is not a laptop. I wish I could troubleshoot the problem, but I have work to do! Hope this install works! -- -- Evan